Curse

GenocideTwitch · Nov 18, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50

I hate what ANET has turned guild wars into. ANET has been more focused on the pve..well stoping the enjoyment of pve..way more then focus on the pvp aspect of the game.

I think ANET should make he game more open to casual players by increasing the drop rates in pve so players don't have to commit 500000 hours farming for 2 - 3 items. This will allow players to reach end game status and have the items\gear\things they want out of pve and focus on what guild wars was intended for..the pvp.

I think Anets constant nerfs to the drop rates has hurt the state of the game more then helped it. This is comming from an almost exclusive pvp player. Pve to me is such a waste of time in it's current state: Why go farm the same things over and over and over for 2 or 3 items that just have a neat texture when a pvp character can just be made and unlocked with perfect gear in 2-3 hours in RA.

By constantly nerfing the PVE side of guild wars more and more people are spending more and more time in PVE, and never really getting to the point of trying pvp. sure pvp may not be for everyone and thats fine, but i think if the pve side of guild wars were actually rewarding players for playing instead of forcing players to farm we'd see a large increase in the games pvp, which is guild wars staying power. Even after you've farmed those 600000000 hours to get the items you want in pve and there isn't anything left to do pvp is always fun and exciting on a level that the pve in guild wars hardly holds a match to.

PvP in guild wars is becoming stagnant due to Anet's constant dablings in the pve aspect of the game and less on skill balance, sure they add content from time to time, but they make the content nearly unreachable for the players that only get a chance to play 1-10 hours a week which is a major turn off.

Also having to farm for something over and over and over while online those 1-10 hours people are stuck with 2 options- farm and try to hopefully get that 1/1000000 chance to get that drop they are after or spend time chatting and getting to know the people in the comunity better form friendships ect.

The PVE imo in it's current state is bottlenecking the wanted result from guild wars. Sure people will want to play pve over pvp and i think thats fine, nothing stops a person that wants to pve over pvp, but at least they will be getting something out of it instead of wasted time.

Sorry for such a long rant but I'm so sick and tired of losing guild members and friends in the game because they see how unrewarding their efforts are, and have looked elsewhere because of it. Give the PVE players what they want!

Tamuril elansar · Nov 18, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59

so lets get this on a line... you want obsidian armor after completing the storyline? lol...

GenocideTwitch · Nov 18, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by Tamuril elansar

so lets get this on a line... you want obsidian armor after completing the storyline? lol...

Sure why not, Obsidian armor doesn't have a monetary value. Having it only makes the game enjoyable for the person that wants to get the Obsidian armor. I'm not saying make it so easy to get that you can just walk up and click! it's yours but I think instead of having to farm countless hours for items after you've beaten the game is pedicured to players that don't voice their opinions and will just go with the flow of whatever is there, until they realize that it's all been a waste of time - then you lose that person from the game.

Having Obsidian armor does what for you exactly? (or any other item in the game) Nothing. except proclaim that you've spent way to many hours farming or trading to really know anything about the game.

And second of all, The entire dynamic of farm for days - get an item is flawed to begin with. What happens after you get your item\gear\armor? you've done all this work, and now you get to look "different" like the 50000 other people wearing the exact same thing.

Drop of Fear · Nov 18, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09

another rant yey.
dont like the game? there's plenty of other online games in this world. find one that suits u and live happy

cya

Malice Black · Nov 18, 2007, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Lol

Stop playing.

GenocideTwitch · Nov 18, 2007, 02:11 PM // 14:11

you're missing the point of the post entirely it isn't about not liking the game at all. it's about making it actually enjoyable for players that have lives.

zwei2stein · Nov 18, 2007, 02:15 PM // 14:15

If having phat loot makes game enjoyable i have good advice for you:

Stop playing GW.

Malice Black · Nov 18, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by GenocideTwitch

you're missing the point of the post entirely it isn't about not liking the game at all. it's about making it actually enjoyable for players that have lives.

Hellgate has phat loot that is easyyyyy to get. Cya o/

GenocideTwitch · Nov 18, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

If having phat loot makes game enjoyable i have good advice for you:

Stop playing GW.

Again read the actual post. Having "phat loot" doesn't make the game enjoyable for me at all, having a game thats rewarding for players in all levels of play however, is.

You can't tell me you actually enjoy going to the exact same zone for hours on end killing the exact same mobs for hours on end to get something thats worthless other then a new looking skin.

Alexandra-Sweet · Nov 18, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

I think they should get rid (or decrease) of the title grind, it's just too much, like the Alliance Titles, how long does it take to get 10,000,000 Kurzick/Luxon Faction? Half a year?

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

another rant yey.
dont like the game? there's plenty of other online games in this world. find one that suits u and live happy

cya

Just wondering but name one that has no monthly fee and has graphics equal to Guild Wars.

Tamuril elansar · Nov 18, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by GenocideTwitch

Sure why not, Obsidian armor doesn't have a monetary value. Having it only makes the game enjoyable for the person that wants to get the Obsidian armor. I'm not saying make it so easy to get that you can just walk up and click! it's yours but I think instead of having to farm countless hours for items after you've beaten the game is pedicured to players that don't voice their opinions and will just go with the flow of whatever is there, until they realize that it's all been a waste of time - then you lose that person from the game.

Having Obsidian armor does what for you exactly? (or any other item in the game) Nothing. except proclaim that you've spent way to many hours farming or trading to really know anything about the game.

ofcourse obsidian armor isnt any better than other max armor, this is why i play guildwars, you dont NEED obsidian armor to be good, you dont NEED to spend 1000+hours on farming/trading, its you're own choose.

obsidian armor is something special, something to work on. If you could just get everything in the game, why play it for more than 3 hours, it isnt any fun to get what you want without working for it.

lacasner · Nov 18, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Go buy droks, it has the same stats as obsidian. You are not entitled to anything by merely existing

Malice Black · Nov 18, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by GenocideTwitch

Again read the actual post. Having "phat loot" doesn't make the game enjoyable for me at all, having a game thats rewarding for players in all levels of play however, is.

You can't tell me you actually enjoy going to the exact same zone for hours on end killing the exact same mobs for hours on end to get something thats worthless other then a new looking skin.

Go PvP.

Everyone knows PvE is dull.

GenocideTwitch · Nov 18, 2007, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by Tamuril elansar

ofcourse obsidian armor isnt any better than other max armor, this is why i play guildwars, you dont NEED obsidian armor to be good, you dont NEED to spend 1000+hours on farming/trading, its you're own choose.

obsidian armor is something special, something to work on. If you could just get everything in the game, why play it for more than 3 hours, it isnt any fun to get what you want without working for it.

I agree partly, working for it is fine, but grinding for days isn't.

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Originally Posted by lacasner

Go buy droks, it has the same stats as obsidian. You are not entitled to anything by merely existing

Look, It's all fine and dandy that someone can go get some item, it isn't about obsidian or droks or anything particular in gw. It's about opening up the more rewarding aspect of the game.

Tamuril elansar · Nov 18, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28

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Originally Posted by GenocideTwitch

I agree partly, working for it is fine, but grinding for days isn't.

if you dont want to grind for days to get it, dont buy it.
if you want it so badly, go grind for it instead of whining about it on guru.

Antheus · Nov 18, 2007, 02:29 PM // 14:29

The thread title is incorrect.

This is rant about loot, better yet, farming.

lacasner · Nov 18, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30

Well then you have to put in the time to get the COSMETICS of the game, not the necessities. Again, your not entitled to anything by merely existing, get your droks and play the game how you want it, if you want higher end armor then grind the appropriate amount to get it .

GenocideTwitch · Nov 18, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by Tamuril elansar

if you dont want to grind for days to get it, dont buy it.
if you want it so badly, go grind for it instead of whining about it on guru.

Again you need to read the post. It isn't about me wanting anything out of pve. Pve is DULL and BORING to me.

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Originally Posted by Antheus

The thread title is incorrect.

This is rant about loot, better yet, farming.

Actually no it's not at all. the thread is about the state of the guild wars game. The PVE aspect of the game is nothing but farming and loot after the campaigns.

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Originally Posted by lacasner

Well then you have to put in the time to get the COSMETICS of the game, not the necessities. Again, your not entitled to anything by merely existing, get your droks and play the game how you want it, if you want higher end armor then grind the appropriate amount to get it .

Putting in time for cosmetics is fine and dandy, the thing is alot of players get stuck in the cosmetic aspect of the game when the entire point of guild wars was almost entirely based on the pvp.

The PVP in guild wars determines everything aside a cosmetic look to some randomly generated item forcing players to spend weeks in the pve grind after completion of said pve campaign is bad for the games continuity.

Malice Black · Nov 18, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by GenocideTwitch

Again you need to read the post. It isn't about me wanting anything out of pve. Pve is DULL and BORING to me.

Actually no it's not at all. the thread is about the state of the guild wars game. The PVE aspect of the game is nothing but farming and loot after the campaigns.

Your options

#1 PvP
#2 Quit

#2 is better

Tamuril elansar · Nov 18, 2007, 02:39 PM // 14:39

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Originally Posted by GenocideTwitch

The PVE aspect of the game is nothing but farming and loot after the campaigns.

oh really? what about pve titles?